tat2punk
11-10-2005, 02:56 PM
here is a copy of the PM i sent to ekool
I am going on about 4 hours of sleep right now and tired, but this is what I came up with.
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I am kinda of upset with a couple of your admins. What gives? They are acting like immature kids and messing with my partners and friends.
We are not these 18 yr old kids that need to be talked to like little kids. I think the youngest one of all of us is around 27 and when an admin comes in and leaves a smart ass comment its not like they are going to just sit down and take it because an admin has an attitude. Just because they are an admin doesn't mean that they can treat people like shit. I guess they can if they want and you allow it but in the end all it will do is cost you money.
With these guys if you push they are going to push back. If you push one you push everyone. What would be so hard about them talking to people like they are are actually people. Whats so hard about them actually explaing something instead of "shoot first and talk later" it may be effective with "kids" but we are adults and need to be treated like that.
I am going throuh a rough time in my life right now with my cousing getting killed in iraq. It makes you looking at life different after knowing that he is laying dead in a casket with only half a head. He was 25 and little mikey that used to come over all the time. It makes you think, "what is the puorpose of all of the unessecary conflicts that go on for stupid reason and no one gains anything from it".
I get on the forums yesterday so I can get everything caught back up and planned on making a post for giving out a bunch of free srtforums.com items once I get caught back up this weekend. When I get depressed it makes me feel better by doing nice things for others, this would make me feel better and help me out also.
continued in part 2..........
Continued from part 1..........
So, I get on yesterday and I am feeling all good cause I am going to give away some free things to people on the forums and I am kind of excited to make others happy, while making myself happy for doing things for others. Then I go to find my friends in "our" thread that we stay in and enjoy. It was shut down with no explenantion with a smart ass comment. I find the new thread where the admins are flexing thier internet muscles. What I got out of it was that the admin that got everything stirred up said that was the way he is and leave the site if you don't like it, is what it came down to. My mood changed rather fast and it changed to a fuck doing things for other people, why do things for other people, all they want to do is shit on you.
You have to understand that the toledo people love thier cars and love the forums. When winter time comes and racing is over there is nothing to do for them, they are true srt enthusiasts. So they turn to the forums and chit chat about life and thier cars and what to do and what is going on. When they do they get shit on by the admins, the ones that these guys respect. All they need to do is talk to us when something is wrong and it will stop, no confrontation or anything but they turn it into a big deal that no one gains anything from it.
On top of all of that they allow people that have nothing to do with us come into our thread and start shit and they will not do anything about it. WTF? They let people come in and go on and on calling everyine fags and all that and will not do anything about it.
I hope that the admins saved you $1200 a year in your bandwidth and server costs by driving away a supporting vendor and the toledo people.
As of right now my feelings are that I do not want to support a site that treats you like shit. You need some admins that can actually take the time to let people know whats going on and "talk first and shoot second" and if they don't have the time to do that why be a dick and leave for work.
They are worried about the post counts yet, they caused a hell of alot more posting than what would have happened, kind of ironic.
In conclusion, I want to know from you if this is the way things are going to end or is something going to be done about it? Please let me know soon before our vendor time expires so I can make a decission on wether to stay or not. We don't bother anyone and we get fucked with, its bullshit and we don't need this. WHy pay to get treated like shit.
Please let me know whats going to be done if anything. You can call, email or PM.
Thanks, DJ
734-320-****
dj@tat2punk.com
I am going on about 4 hours of sleep right now and tired, but this is what I came up with.
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I am kinda of upset with a couple of your admins. What gives? They are acting like immature kids and messing with my partners and friends.
We are not these 18 yr old kids that need to be talked to like little kids. I think the youngest one of all of us is around 27 and when an admin comes in and leaves a smart ass comment its not like they are going to just sit down and take it because an admin has an attitude. Just because they are an admin doesn't mean that they can treat people like shit. I guess they can if they want and you allow it but in the end all it will do is cost you money.
With these guys if you push they are going to push back. If you push one you push everyone. What would be so hard about them talking to people like they are are actually people. Whats so hard about them actually explaing something instead of "shoot first and talk later" it may be effective with "kids" but we are adults and need to be treated like that.
I am going throuh a rough time in my life right now with my cousing getting killed in iraq. It makes you looking at life different after knowing that he is laying dead in a casket with only half a head. He was 25 and little mikey that used to come over all the time. It makes you think, "what is the puorpose of all of the unessecary conflicts that go on for stupid reason and no one gains anything from it".
I get on the forums yesterday so I can get everything caught back up and planned on making a post for giving out a bunch of free srtforums.com items once I get caught back up this weekend. When I get depressed it makes me feel better by doing nice things for others, this would make me feel better and help me out also.
continued in part 2..........
Continued from part 1..........
So, I get on yesterday and I am feeling all good cause I am going to give away some free things to people on the forums and I am kind of excited to make others happy, while making myself happy for doing things for others. Then I go to find my friends in "our" thread that we stay in and enjoy. It was shut down with no explenantion with a smart ass comment. I find the new thread where the admins are flexing thier internet muscles. What I got out of it was that the admin that got everything stirred up said that was the way he is and leave the site if you don't like it, is what it came down to. My mood changed rather fast and it changed to a fuck doing things for other people, why do things for other people, all they want to do is shit on you.
You have to understand that the toledo people love thier cars and love the forums. When winter time comes and racing is over there is nothing to do for them, they are true srt enthusiasts. So they turn to the forums and chit chat about life and thier cars and what to do and what is going on. When they do they get shit on by the admins, the ones that these guys respect. All they need to do is talk to us when something is wrong and it will stop, no confrontation or anything but they turn it into a big deal that no one gains anything from it.
On top of all of that they allow people that have nothing to do with us come into our thread and start shit and they will not do anything about it. WTF? They let people come in and go on and on calling everyine fags and all that and will not do anything about it.
I hope that the admins saved you $1200 a year in your bandwidth and server costs by driving away a supporting vendor and the toledo people.
As of right now my feelings are that I do not want to support a site that treats you like shit. You need some admins that can actually take the time to let people know whats going on and "talk first and shoot second" and if they don't have the time to do that why be a dick and leave for work.
They are worried about the post counts yet, they caused a hell of alot more posting than what would have happened, kind of ironic.
In conclusion, I want to know from you if this is the way things are going to end or is something going to be done about it? Please let me know soon before our vendor time expires so I can make a decission on wether to stay or not. We don't bother anyone and we get fucked with, its bullshit and we don't need this. WHy pay to get treated like shit.
Please let me know whats going to be done if anything. You can call, email or PM.
Thanks, DJ
734-320-****
dj@tat2punk.com